Sunday, September 09, 2007

Pinnacle Dazzle DVD Recorder and Studio 10 software

I have spent much of the last couple of weeks producing videos, movies and DVDs. It has been an educational, creative and often quite frustrating experience. When I searched online I found that there are many others who have had similar problems. So I thought that it would be useful to put some of my experiences and discoveries online.
(I have a many years of photography, software development and computer database experience. I am just learning about things like DVD burning, video codecs and MPEG versions).
I have some old Mini VHS-C videos that I recorded ten years old ago. I wanted to capture those tapes on my PC and create some DVD and YouTube movies. When I visited my local Future Shop store here in Canada I found what I thought was the perfect solution.
Dazzle DVD Recorder capture
They were selling a USB connection box called a Dazzle DVD Recorder from the Pinnacle division of Avid. The price was cheap, about $65 US, and it included software.
My first problem was deciding which version to buy. They have a regular and a platinum version. As far as I could figure out in the store, the only differences seem to be that the more expensive version had some sort of hardware compression that allowed use on older USB 1.0 computers. I thought that it was strange that the more expensive version seemed to be designed for older computers. I bought the cheaper red version. I later figured out that the more expensive Platinum version also includes the ability to create DivX and MPEG4 output. But those are only apparently needed if you are creating the most modern HD videos or trying to copy data with copy protection. In any case it seems like the same DivX and MPEG4 codecs are available for download at a later date.
Buggy Install
My next problem was the software installation process. I have HP Pavilion computer with 1 GB of RAM with a 1.5 GHz Intel processor. The install took hours if you include the time to download and setup the later 10.7 version from the Pinnacle web site. Instead of just providing just the required and licensed software they install everything and cripple the many features that are not licensed. Everywhere you look in this software there are crippled features that can be licensed for an upgrade fee. Because I am particularly fussy about photography I downloaded the Studio Plus 10 upgrade. That was needed to do even basic colour balance correction.
There are essentially no written installation instructions. Today, two weeks later, I noticed a file on the Bonus DVD-NTSC disk -- they gave me two copies (!) -- named Studio_us.pdf with a complete instruction book. I have not yet had time to read it since I only discovered it today.
There is another version of Studio (Version 11) but there is no clear reason to do an upgrade.
There is a software product included named Instant DVD Recorder. It is for basic copying direct to DVD. There is no editing options and there is not even the ability to capture more than one input into a single DVD. If you have a dozen MPEG files you can only record a DVD with the first one. There is an easy to use menu system but the only chapter option is to simply create a new chapter every few minutes. This is easy to use but feeble. I have not had much success with that and my remarks here are all about the Pinnacle Studio 10.7.
Studio 10 Capture problems
After a few tests I seemed to have the hang of the capture process in Studio 10. But I experienced frequent crashes when it was time to do the actual capture. After several hours finally figured out that since I had been doing database development work that I had the System / Performance Options / Advanced / set to best performance for Background Services instead of Programs. Ouch. I should have set things that way but the capture program should not have crashed without an error message.
During my testing I had to reinstall the Studio software. At one point I did a complete Uninstall and fresh Install.
My first video captures were saved in the provided compact MPG2 format. I checked a few times and was happy with the results and proceeded to capture nine video cassettes. I was in for a surprise though when I finally took a closer look at the results. Some of my captures started to get out of sync five or ten minutes into the video. In some cases the audio playback was more than two minutes behind the video. I finally figured out that things generally stayed in sync when I used the AVI option. These are much bigger than the MPG2 versions. For a 30 minute tape it requires close to 2 gigabyte to store the AVI capture.
So now I was into the Studio 10 editing process. It is slick and easy to create complex tasks. At one point I was trying to save some space. I found an innocuous sounding feature that allows a person to Delete Auxiliary Files. I could find no reference to these in the help files so I proceeded to do the Delete. I thought that they were some sort of temporary rendering file. Afterwards, when I reopened my old Projects, I found that all the video clip displays were replaced with pictures of a big Blue Exclamation Point symbol. Ouch again. I tried phoning customer support -- it was a Thursday morning -- but there wasn't anyone in the office. I eventually recreated all my projects from scratch.
Writing Final Files
Now we get to my biggest roadblock. I have spent much of the last week trying to get past the place in the program where it says 'Writing Final Files...'. This was particularly confusing since when I checked the Processes in the Windows Task Master it showed Studio using about 96% of the CPU and was constantly doing I/O Writes. I tried many options and many experiments. I finally figured out that all those I/O Writes were simply writing many repeating messages to infinitely expanding error log files. The Studio program was not actually doing anything useful. At one point I left it at this Writing Final Files stage running for 18 hours before I gave up and broke out of the program. It took me days to figure out if this was a problem with my system, a problem with my Project's design, complexity or size.
The Solution
I finally figured out that this big roadblock was due to the installed Menu system files. There is an option to upgrade to Premium Pack Menus but, since the installed Standard Menus don't function, why would I pay even more money for the extra Premium Pack? I finally figured out that all these hang ups were due to the funky menu system. As far as I can figure out none of the supplied Menus function. It is likely due to the strange folder setup especially for the buttons. Under C:\Program Files\Pinnacle\Studio 10\ I find folders with names such as Titles and Titles 16x9. Under the folders with 16x9 in the name, you find files with 16x9 in the file names. BUT while there is a Buttons folder that has some files with 16x9 in the names, there is no Buttons 16x9 folder. Judging from the error messages when opening projects the system as installed cannot find the proper Menu components.
So I created some Menus from scratch using the Menu Editor. And surprise of surprises, when using these homemade Menus, everything renders and I can create DVD images and burn disks. I should put some menus on the net somewhere and of course would do so if I get some encouraging comments.
I hope that all this will be useful to some other user. I will continue to use this Dazzle hardware and software ; especially since some of the alternatives are so expensive. There are plenty of other inexpensive options for the actual DVD burning such as Windows Movie Maker and Nero. There are few inexpensive options for the actual clip and menu editing.

12 comments:

Anonymous said...

I have wasted a week and 10 DVD's so far trying to deal with this program and still the sound does not go with the video! What a waste! I feel like such a sucker for buying this program. The website is as confusing as the software and no help at all. All the updates just make trying to fix the bugs more confusing. I dont think they want you to be able to use this program with success, buggy program with no support. They just took me for 50.00 bucks for a program I cant return or use.

Anonymous said...

I'm curious about your opinion of the quality of the transfer and replay of transfered video.
Thanks,
Greg

Unknown said...

Great I bought my dazzle yesterday, it also hangs with the creation of the menus. Don't like this software, is there any other software around I could use ?

Anonymous said...

Have you posted the menu structure yet? I think it will work fine for me once I get a proper menu structure set up, and if you've already done so, I'd rather not recreate the wheel.
As far as quality, I don't run into problems with audio delay. But I do run into problems with what is best described as a video skip. I'm converting Hi-8 and Digital 8 tapes to DVD. Wanted to first do through the Instant DVD record funciton, but found I had slightly more success with Studio. It's still not good enough, though, so I hope the menu restructuring will help out

Anonymous said...

i'm glad i'm not the only one!

Anonymous said...

I just bought the latest version 12 with the interface and it’s junk. I wasted two days installing and uninstalling it and after the installation problems were overcome, I just got a big blue screen and system halt most of the time. I tried it on a Sony Vaio as well as A Dell Vostro and the result was the same in both cases. The package I purchased was the Dazzle Video Creator Plus. It’s going back to Best Buy for a refund tomorrow.

It’s digital junk.

Anonymous said...

i got my dazzle last week nothing but problems with the pinicle keeps showing up as a system data problem and the data2 doesnt instal like the file is corrupt if any1 knows how to solve this problem e-mail whiteguy13@msn.com plz

Steve33 said...

I have tried everything to get rid if the out of sync problem to no avail any more suggestions"
Steve

Emerogork said...

Slowly but surely I have deciphered most of the method to use the Dazzle however, one major issue is that it seems that I have to shut down and restart the computer before each "Make Movie" to prevent disk failures. When the failure is reported, the drive will not even eject the disk. There is just enough success in all this to get me to continue trying to make it work (-:

Also, creating movies larger than 60 minutes will cause the quality to drop to 50% or so. Is this normal? This causes color to be faded in the final print.

Unknown said...

Well thanks for this. I have Dazzle pinnacle ver 10 here and wanted to check it out before installing. Thank god I found this info beforehand.
I'll try this Vegas instead. Cheers!

Anonymous said...

I also bought the Dazzle DVD Creator Plus. Unlike most (all) of the comments here, I had no real problems - the install took awhile so I just let it do it's thing and came back when it was finished.

I primarily use the "capture" import tools to bring in either VHS tapes or even striaght composite video from my TV tuner.

I set my capture mode to DVD compatable (mpg format). I am getting great results with the import/capture.

I am still playing with the editor and "make DVD" pieces but once I have the file(s) I need most any DVD maker will work (Windows DVD Maker is not bad for free)

I see a lot of negative responses here so I thought I would play the advocate a speak up. I am currently using the Studio 12 version which came with the Creator Plus(?) hardware. Again, I MOSTLY use this for the video capture and am getting GREAT quality and results, but I have yet to get comfortable in the main Studio interface - but I plan to do so.

Anonymous said...

I have Pinnacle Dazzle Studio 10.8, I mainly use the Instant DVD part of the software to record straight to disc from VHS tape. I have found by trail and error that a DVD+R is the best choice. If you use a DVD-R, while this will work, you cannot copy the disc or rip it into you hard drive, I don't know why, but it will give a "perimeter incorrect error" every time. This doesn't happen using the DVD+R.I don't try to get fancy with it, I just want my family homemade VHS tapes put to DVD. I can rip it from DVD later if I want to get creative with them. Basically I am happy with the Instant DVD part, but I have had many lockups and crashes trying to using the other software to record it into my hard drive.